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bkyle
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/11 23:52 What do you think about the new "Aluminum" iMac systems? Do you like the "iPhone inspired" silver and black design or do you prefer the older white look? Do you think the latest iMac is a natural evolution of an essentially perfect desktop system or would you prefer a more daring departure in form or function? Do you think it is logical to discontinue all-in-one desktop systems with smaller displays or do you think it is a mistake for Apple to no longer offer a sub-US$1000 iMac model? Why or why not?
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PatrickH
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/12 02:31 They should sell off the remaining stock cheap.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/12 04:21 I have viewed the new AlumiMacs (marcus-non-registradus) and there are pluses and minuses (minie?)

Obviously, great to have the new Santa Rosa chipset platform with faster cpu and 800 MHz frontside bus.

But, the whole full-glare, high-gloss only screen is a total disappointment. And couple that with the mandatory 1-inch high-gloss black border around the screen and it is even worse.
All the views and pictures that I have seen (including Apple's own) clearly demonstrate the mirror reflections off of the screen and black border.
(From personal experience, i find the glare very distracting. And to have even more screen and computer front space reflecting back at me is a major eye-strain.)

I am at a loss to understand why they have done this. Do they think Mac users only use the iMac to watch movies in a dark room?
WWTT - What Were They Thinking?!

On the humorous side, I posted to MacWorld that this may create an aftermarket for lots of blue painters masking tape to cover up the glossy black border, or lots of Post-It notes. (except there is apparently the IR receiver somewhere under that gloss edge.)

Realistically, I am thinking I will not be rushing to upgrade. Suddenly, my existing G5 iMac is Looking Better (for time being)! ;)

I've also posted Apple Feedback asking for a non-glare, anti-reflective screen as an option. And will probably continue to post and suggest to sales staff.

One other point, the take-down analysis from a couple sites indicate that apparently, the 20" iMac uses a less expensive TN (Twised Nematic) screen, which accounts for the reported: smaller viewing angle and lower color accuracy. While the 24" uses the more expensive and better quality IPS (or derivative) which has wider viewing angles, truer colors and ability to show more discrete color gradations accurately.

This would be good tech info to start including in the EveryMac Hardware profile, since Apple has not seen to provide this information to purchasers. Though the difference in viewing angle and brightness (or lack) between 20" and 24" have been remarked upon by many of the Mac media sites.

Re. your other question, I think they should keep a sub $1000 iMac model available. Even if it is just the continuation of last model, as consumer PC purchase studies frequently point to the sub 1000 as a magic number to beat in order to get into more homes (or schools).

Thanks for your site and info.
Best, Bruce.

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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/12 10:23 Re. your other question, I think they should keep a sub $1000 iMac model available. Even if it is just the continuation of last model, as consumer PC purchase studies frequently point to the sub 1000 as a magic number to beat in order to get into more homes (or schools).

I agree. I think it is a mistake to not have a $999 iMac model it is an important price point psychologically. I also would like the iMac to be easier to expand and upgrade. The oldest iMac G5s were easier to upgrade and I would like to see the iMacs head back in that direction. The black color is cool though. - Mike
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/12 10:58 I was at the King of Prussia Apple Store yesterday and spent some quality time on the new iMacs. I think they're gorgeous, both esthetically and technically, despite the less than stellar video card. The glossy screen did have reflections in the store--but then what do you expect when you have the full glare of those overhead lights everywhere? The image on the screen was much sharper and brighter than on the old monitors, I thought. I agree that Apple probably should have made the kind of monitor a matter of choice, but I also imagine that it would be a pain to stock both kinds for each of the three varieties of iMac. The new keyboard, I thought, was pretty nifty too. The keystrokes are a bit shorter than I'm used to, but the keys were crisp and responsive. The thing that makes me think I'm going to get one to replace the old keyboard on my G5 is that they seem to be especially good at resisting cat and dog hair (I have two of each, so believe me, it's important!). I've had to put a plastic skin on my current keyboard, and although it does the job of keeping the keyboard clear of crap, I've about had it with typing through the plastic, which makes it tougher to type, period. On the other hand, I have developed much much stronger fingers as a result ;)

Anyway, if I were in the market for a new computer, the new iMac would be the one I'd get. The 24" screen is really attractive, but I probably would make do with a 20" one.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:Discussion Q&A - Aluminum iMac? - 2007/08/12 15:47 I like the look of the new iMacs. It does fit more in line with the rest of the product design more than the white ones did. I was never a fan of the white plastic look anyway. Too sterile looking for me.

I don't think the lower end 17" iMac should be shelved. It should have been kept around for low budget buyers who may otherwise buy a PC because of cost. But then again Apple has never been known for it's low price.

I do think Apple should include some kind of Sub-woofer with the iMacs.

The black boarder around the screen is a nice accent in my opinion and the whole thing has a very 21st century look and feel to it. If I was in the market for a new Mac I would seriously consider an iMac.
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