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praktiman
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		let's move up a notch then (was: max out my 6500?) - 2007/03/15 09:49 lol i did get a b/w for next to nothing off of lemswap, but it appears to be a total flake. there may be one or two things left i can try, but it is looking more and more like doa. i also have a beige g3/300 that i bought a while back. it appears ok. what can i say, though, i've grown attached to that 6500.

i just got a 9500 for free yesterday. how does it compare to the 9600? what's the difference between being tsunami-based and being kansas-based? are there any fundamental differences other than the inline bus of 100mhz on the 6 compared to the 50mhz buses on the 5? anything that makes the 6 more foward-compatible?

also, where could i find a take-apart guide for it? the guy i got it from put a couple cards in there, but it seems the mobo has to come out to see what they are and i haven't figured out how to do that.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:let's move up a notch then (was: max out my 650 - 2007/03/15 21:46 praktiman wrote:
lol i did get a b/w for next to nothing off of lemswap, but it appears to be a total flake. there may be one or two things left i can try, but it is looking more and more like doa. i also have a beige g3/300 that i bought a while back. it appears ok. what can i say, though, i've grown attached to that 6500.

i just got a 9500 for free yesterday. how does it compare to the 9600? what's the difference between being tsunami-based and being kansas-based? are there any fundamental differences other than the inline bus of 100mhz on the 6 compared to the 50mhz buses on the 5? anything that makes the 6 more foward-compatible?

also, where could i find a take-apart guide for it? the guy i got it from put a couple cards in there, but it seems the mobo has to come out to see what they are and i haven't figured out how to do that.

I finally realized after posting this that I had posted some ideas on your other B&W post.

I know what you mean about being attached to the 6500. I have the saem problem but diverted my attention to the other Macs in my collection and the poor 6400 is sitting in a corner with no purpose. It's kinda sad....

The 95/9600's have the saem bus speed of 50MHz. The 100MHz bus first appeared in the B&W G3.

There is really not much difference in the two (95/9600) Macs when it comes to upgrading unless you have one of the 300MHz models. Except the 9600 opens in two seconds and the 9500 opens after making you bleed.

You have managed to get two of the worst Macs to take apart. The 64/6500 & 85/9500 Macs will make you loose blood.

Check the Apple manual download section and there should be a manual with a take apart guide. It will at least tell you how to get it open. I had an 8500 once but forget how it comes apart. I must have blocked that out of my memory due to trauma ;-)


Here's some info on Mac boards:

http://www.macinfo.de/hardware/boards-g2.html
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:let's move up a notch then (was: max out my 6500?) - 2007/03/15 21:47 Two things spring to mind. The 9500 is a bit of a PITA to take apart and work on whereas the 9600 is a bit like the later G4 towers. Drop the side down and away you go with adding on or upgrades.Both still miles ahead of the 6500 of course.If you intend to max out the 9500 with add on PCI cards , the other thing to consider is the PSU on the 9500 is only 225 W. Depends on what you intend to do with it . I think the take apart guides are still on the Apple website - you might have to do a bit of searching for them is all.Not sure how many hard drives you can fit in either. I have two in my 9600 but with a bit of metal working I'm sure another two could be wedged in . The 9500 may be the same.Of course this link may be of some use...
www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/index.html :-)
Stewie

Post edited by: stewieno1, at: 2007/03/15 20:55
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:let's move up a notch then (was: max out my 650 - 2007/07/04 22:09 Hello,
I have upgraded my old PM 8500 it is very similar to your 9500 execpt that you have more room for RAM by 1.5 times and more PCI slots. I have installed a Sonnet G4 450 Mz daughter card that works well with the 50 Mz bus speed. I have not had alot of luck with PCI cards since installing Jaguar using XPostFacto 2.2.5. That was 1 year ago today. I had the Sonnet Tango 2 working somewhat under OS 9.2.2 with OS 9 Helper, but I pulled the card to install OS X and have not been able to use USB items since. I have not spent a lot of time trying. I do love using OS X. I am running 896 MB of RAM.
Good luck, Ivan
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:let's move up a notch then (was: max out my 650 - 2007/07/05 01:17 hrandiac wrote:
Hello,
I have upgraded my old PM 8500 it is very similar to your 9500 execpt that you have more room for RAM by 1.5 times and more PCI slots. I have installed a Sonnet G4 450 Mz daughter card that works well with the 50 Mz bus speed. I have not had alot of luck with PCI cards since installing Jaguar using XPostFacto 2.2.5. That was 1 year ago today. I had the Sonnet Tango 2 working somewhat under OS 9.2.2 with OS 9 Helper, but I pulled the card to install OS X and have not been able to use USB items since. I have not spent a lot of time trying. I do love using OS X. I am running 896 MB of RAM.
Good luck, Ivan

Check out Xpostfacto's forums. I remember something about the Sonnet Tango cards having some issues with a lot of things.

One thing I would try is to try the Tango card in a differnt PCI slot. Try different slots, bottom slot preferably. Sometimes it helps.
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