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praktiman
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/07 10:51 thanks, everybody, for all the info. i have a few more questions if i may.

i agree a video card and an up-to-date (more or less) peripheral capability are pretty much a prerequisite. however, i was hoping to be able to add faster data transfer, as well. one product that would seem to make this possible is the tempo trio, but i've heard there can be problems with it. has anyone heard of this finally being decoded, so to speak (like, the right combo of extensions/drivers/installation sequence/etc.)?

also, what are opinioins on voodoo5 versus radeon?

> Get all of the logic board add-ons like the A/V input output stuff. The
> TV Tuner for sure and there is also a video mirroring monitor port you
> can add. (uses the video-out port on the board) You should be able to
> run four monitors with that set-up. (2 morrored with internal video in
> the middle and 2 landscaped with PCI video on each side)

sorry, krow, i don't quite get what you're describing. regardless, i had figured on picking up the a/v and tv cards. and while i don't think i'll ever be doing anything where i'd have 4 displays hooked up at once, it's cool to know that such capability can be had (i can't figure out what you're doing with that setup).

best,

-chris
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/08 08:59 I have never been a fan of the all-in-one Trio card because of the issues everyone seemed to have. This is definitely a card to avoid in my opinion.

Keep in mind adding a controller card to your 6500 is going to be a tight fit in the small space available.

The Voodoo 5 card would be overkill for a 6500.
The B&W G3 Rage would be more than sufficient for a 6500. Radeon would be overkill too IMHO.

But the question is.... what do you want to use the 6500 for ?



I don't have 4 monitors running on my 6400. I was just describing how it can be maxed out. That's what you asked for ;-)

I don't even use my 6400 anymore for several reasons. Mainly, it's just too slow for my needs.

If you want to really max out an older Mac you would be far better off with a 73-9600 PPC or clone PPC instead of the 6500. There is much more potential for the 73-9600 & clone era Macs for pushing them far beyond their intended limits.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/09 10:37 basically, i want to be able to keep the machine "current" for a while longer. well, as long as i can. my main use is internet and gaming. as it was (haven't had internet at home for a while due to being on the road a lot) surfing just got to be really problematic sometimes. from what i've seen on the net, upgrading the processor will allow me to use the more current browsers.

however, i also got a pretty nice consumer scanner and there's some hi-res scanning/editing projects i'd like to get done (still photo, not video). there might well be a website in the works eventually. keep in mind, this is purely personal use, not something i plan for commercial use, so productivity/power is not a priority. thus, the thought i could stay with this machine for the time being. not to mention that the bug has bit me, and i'm really interested in seeing what this box is still capable of. . . .
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/09 12:22 praktiman wrote:
basically, i want to be able to keep the machine "current" for a while longer. well, as long as i can. my main use is internet and gaming. as it was (haven't had internet at home for a while due to being on the road a lot) surfing just got to be really problematic sometimes. from what i've seen on the net, upgrading the processor will allow me to use the more current browsers.

however, i also got a pretty nice consumer scanner and there's some hi-res scanning/editing projects i'd like to get done (still photo, not video). there might well be a website in the works eventually. keep in mind, this is purely personal use, not something i plan for commercial use, so productivity/power is not a priority. thus, the thought i could stay with this machine for the time being. not to mention that the bug has bit me, and i'm really interested in seeing what this box is still capable of. . . .

Unfortunately, your 6400 cannot be "currentized" for use on the internet.

The problem you will have with a 6500 is the internet browsers. I have a couple of OS 9 Macs and they really suck for surfing. And upgrading the processor will not allow you run any apps you cannot already use for surfing. It will be a little faster but still limited to OS 9.xx at the most.

The problem you will run into is the available browsers all have their own problems and tend to make surfing the net a bad experience to say the least.

OS X could be installed with a lot of hassles and would be incredibly slow so that would defeat the purpose.

Gaming will be ok on older games but don't expect too much. Games that require a G3 may or may not work right on a 64/6500 G3 upgraded Mac because it's bypassing the onboard CPU. The G3 upgrades are installed in the cache slot on those models.

Scanning & photo editing, which is what i use my old PPC clone for is a good use for an older Macs like yours. Anything on-line has limits.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/10 18:32 Having had the 6' and the 7' machines I'd go with Krow nothing under the 8600. There's a hell of difference both in performance and what can be done with the 8600 +.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:max out my 6500? - 2007/03/10 18:46 universe wrote:
Having had the 6' and the 7' machines I'd go with Krow nothing under the 8600. There's a hell of difference both in performance and what can be done with the 8600 +.

Yes, the 8600 or 9600 Macs were made for "maxing".

And don't forget the clones from UMax and PowerComputing that had even more "maxing" ability than the Macs.

To get the most out of a Mac for your purposes you can get a B&W G3 for about the cost of upgrades for your 6500, possibly even less and has everything you need. Many have SCSI cards for scanners already installed and it will run OS X just fine.

The Performa's were really not made for upgrading much.

The 6500 is a cool little Mac, but for use on-line it is very limited. A B&W G3 would make your experience a lot better. Avoid the Beige G3 if you see one cheap. The beige G3's can be very flaky.
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