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RandyinBC
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		iMovie 08 - 2007/08/10 22:10 Hi all. How does everyone feel about the fact Apple decided to exclude G4's (All PowerBooks period) from running the new version of iMovie ? A Machine Apple made only 19 months ago can not run it. I myself have lost a lot of respect for Apple over this.

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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:iMovie 08 - 2007/08/11 02:20 Randy,

Lord only knows why Apple seems to have yanked support for the G4 from iMovie '08. It also appears that single-processor and single-core machines except the Intel minis and '05 iMacs are dropped.

Apple offers the previous full release of iMovie as a service to those who bought the '08 suite and can't run iMovie.

Given these developments, the future of the venerable G3 machines is likely to be dark. If I'm not mistaken, the iBooks had the longest tenure with the G3's (1998-2003), so they will suffer the worst from the 2008 software rollout, of which Leopard is a component.

Nate

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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:iMovie 08 - 2007/08/11 14:23 First of all that sucks !

But....

It's the cost of ever increasing technology in the computer business. 18 months is getting shorter and shorter in the world of computer technology. Technology used to be outdated (outdated but still perfectly usable) in 6 months, and I read that a few years ago so I wonder what it's at now. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make for Apple. But they are in the business of selling new computers and not software for older computers.

The new iMove has a lot more features like Final Cut and is a much more powerful video editor than the last version so I would guess the G4 and single core CPU's just don't have what it needs to run. Unfortunately for us.......

Don't feel too bad.... I'm sure there are a lot of 18 month old PC's that won't run Vista at all and your Powerbook should run Leopard when it's released.

So us G3 owners are SOL on more and more but I'm still pretty happy with Panther on my Macs and it's still light years ahead of the old Mac OS 8-9 I started with.
It's still pretty amazing that my old $25.00 Smurf g3 will run the most current OS and does it fairly well. A comparable 450MHz Pentuim or AMD computer will run XP but barely, and is much slower than Tiger was on my G3 Smurf. I installed XP Pro on a 500MHz PIII with 512MB of RAM and it was a dog.....barely usable.

Maybe Macs last too long.........
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:iMovie 08 - 2007/08/11 16:35 krow,

I deal in old PCs. Lots of them, too. The nonprofit I work with brings in anywhere from 20 to 100 units in a week.

Surprisingly, 90 percent of what we get is on the order of 5-7 years old. This often means that the machines were shipping with Win2K.

You can find quite a bit that will still run on the old war-horse, but that software won't even run on a 500 MHz PIII, even if it says it will; certain revisions run just under 500 MHz.

XP? Wouldn't dream of it on anything less than 1 GHz; the system with SP2 added some 200 megabytes of bloat that brings most machines to a crawl, 512 MB RAM is barely enough to let the computer drink it all in.

Compare this with Macs. We get fewer, but the equivalent vintage to the above PIII's can still run Tiger, albeit with subtle penalties.

The open-source community has been a valuable ally to both camps in that its contributors can create software usable on slower systems at little or no cost to the user.

It's probably no secret, but I think the key to longevity is being able to take care of the system itself. Fix the hardware as needed, and use software that fits. In some cases, the latest, greatest stuff just doesn't run well.

But there's always a point where even the longest-lived machines must be retired. When that happens, we can salvage the good pieces for newer machines that need them.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:iMovie 08 - 2007/08/11 21:27 swordbreaker55 wrote:


XP? Wouldn't dream of it on anything less than 1 GHz; the system with SP2 added some 200 megabytes of bloat that brings most machines to a crawl, 512 MB RAM is barely enough to let the computer drink it all in.

I know what you mean...... My slowest peecee is an 1100MHz Athlon with 768MB of RAM and it's about as slow as I would want to use with XP.
It's suitable for what I need it for but not really much faster than my 450MHz Smurf G3. Definitely NOT twice as fast as the G3, both with comparable RAM and VRAM.

I ran Tiger for a while on my 450MHz G3 with 1GB of RAM and a good Radeon card and it was usable but Panther seems better suited to the G3 so I went back to 10.3 since Tiger doesn't have anything I can't live without.

Does anyone know what the minimum requirements for Leopard will be ?

I'm assuming the G3's are going to be getting cheaper soon.
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Click here to see the profile of this user 		Re:iMovie 08 - 2007/08/11 22:14 I think it's kinda interesting too that Apple is shipping computers right now that won't run certain of its applications. Like the MacBook and the Mini won't run FCPro, for instance. I know . . . I know: FCPro is a very video intensive application and it would be impossible to run it without a dedicated video card. I'm not really complaining, just pointing out that the new iMove not running on a G4 is not all that surprising. Heck . . . theoretically it won't even run on a G5 under 2 GHz.
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